I realize I might be late to the party on this one (probably a side effect of not previously caring), but I was looking at my usual news sources earlier this week and came across the announcement that Jesse Eisenberg would be playing Lex Luthor in the much discussed Man of Steel sequel, Revenge of the Steel. The internet collectively had an epileptic seizure....a lot like when the story broke that Ben Affleck would be playing Batman. Then there was that hissy fit people threw when Motorcycle Girl from the Fast and Furious movies was casted as Wonder Woman ....and when sources hinted that Doomsday and Nightwing might make an appearance....or when the rumors went out that the Rock MIGHT be playing Green Lantern....or when rumor had it that Denzel Washington MIGHT be playing Green Lantern. Long story short: for a sequel to a movie that was hated just as much as it was loved (I'm in the "love" column, by the way) and hasn't even gone into pre production yet, people have certainly found themselves very emotionally invested with every step of the process.
Then, I wondered to myself about marketing. Now, I am not a promotional genius by any stretch of the imagination, but you know what would be a interesting (though not necessarily good) way to compete with Marvel's "Cineverse"? Since the public pretty much lost its shit at the mere announcement of Batman and Superman being in the same movie together, what if DC just kept doing that? Think about it. Over the years, DC has proven themselves to be a pony of few tricks (depending on how many they can successfully borrow from Marvel in attempts to be them), so it would stand to reason that if their readers are entertained by that set of logistics in their comics, they could get away with doing it with movies as well. They could totally get away with leaking alleged "details" about POSSIBLE casting choices and scripting concepts that may or may not even actually be in play.
And the greatest thing about it would be they wouldn't actually have to commit to any of these ideas because that wouldn't actually be the point. The point would be to get the nerds talking about it. See, the thing about us nerds is that even when we hate stuff, we'll discuss it into the dirt. Seriously, ask any real comic nerd to list all the things they found wrong with Green Lantern. They'll write you a book longer than War and Peace. Even if they were completely indifferent to Green Lantern, you could probably get a ten page essay just on that. That said, if you get the fans talking about the movie, whether they had any initial interest in seeing it in the first place, just start throwing about names and possible plots. We'll all start writing the movie in our heads and deciding whether the movie we just "wrote" sucks or not. And then most of us will go see the movie, but not because we're invested in the characters, but because we want to know whether we're right or wrong. If the movie sucks, it's got our money. If the movie's awesome, it's got our money and then more money from dvd sales and comic tie-ins. In other words, we'll have fallen for the trap.
I'm not sure, but I might be onto something. DC should totally give this a shot.
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Saturday, February 8, 2014
So, I Had An Idea For DC (They Can Have It For Free)....
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Saturday, December 21, 2013
The Goddamn Batman Problem.....
So, I was catching up on New 52 Batman recently. As hard as I am on the reboot material coming out of DC for the past couple of years, I actually really enjoy Scott Snyder's work on Batman. He really has a penchant for Snyder-ising a lot of well-known aspects of the Bat-mythos and making them feel undiscovered. His "Court of Owls" story arc was particularly engaging while still exciting and fast paced. But there was one particular plot point that bothered me, though.
In his fight to defeat the Court of Owls conspiracy threatening to envelop Gotham from the inside, Batman had to exploit the weakness of their nigh-indestructable "talon" assassin agents (imagine ninjas who dress like owls) which has to do with extreme cold. Obviously, this led to the Bat-family having a brief run in with Mr. Freeze. While his driving motivation is still his beloved icicle of a wife, Nora, this retconned version of Victor Fries has actually never met Nora and is just a lonely man who became obsessed with her during his early days of researching cryogenics. Batman recounts this story to exploit as a weakness and, of course, beat Freeze. It was a decent, well-written story, but it also sheds light on my biggest problem with contemporary Batman.
The thing about Batman villains is a lot of the really good ones tend to have a sort of driving force that gives the reader a way to connect and, sometimes, sympathize with them. Granted, this isn't exclusively Batman territory, but Mister Freeze was definitely a character who, over the years, has been particularly popular because of his understandable motivations. Despite being released as a straight to video animated feature (probably because the "Batman and Robin" movie still had a stink on it so strong, it may have been mistaken for actual chemical warfare), SubZero was a very well received movie essentially about Supervillain John Q, a guy trying to save someone he loved and was willing to be an asshole to do it.
This was interesting, but not only because it adds depth to the bad guy. Ideally, it adds some layers to the good guy. Batman actually had to understand someone's motives outside of "because I'm an asshole, that's why." More often than not, during the time of "The Animated Series," Batman went out of his way to still try to save his foes when outside variables seemed to fall apart. By the time he met Animated Series Superman, this gave them something to have in common despite varying methods of getting the job done.
The whole point of the World's Greatest Detective is that he's smart and physically capable, but he's still just a man and, in his own way, serves as not only Gotham's protector, but its conscience as well. The Batman Problem comes when you do things like reduce Mister Freeze, a villain with depth, to a delusional dickhead who never had hugs as a kid just so Batman can look tougher and "above it all" when he beats his ass. In fact, if you look closely, he spends a lot more time outsmarting and looking tough in front of his own Justice League teammates than he does the bad guys You can even see it in the Dark Knight trilogy (although I loved those movies) where Batman's code about not killing holds up....until he kills someone (Ra's Al Ghul, Two Face, Talia). Even though it's awesome at times, the Problem is that Batman has gone from a badass Sherlock Holmes analog with a roguish attitude to the New Chuck Norris.

I would also like to point out that the same nerds who think Batman is awesome because he's seemingly all powerful, unbeatable and omniscient are the same nerds who chastise Superman for being seemingly all powerful, unbeatable and omniscient (in other words, Superman haters, your argument is invalid).
I could throw a digital rock out into the internet and hit millions of memes that all pretty much reduce Batman to Punch'emInTheFuckingFace Man. I was watching a commercial promoting the Arkham Origins video game and it was comprised primarily of Bruce Wayne growing up 1). scowling and 2). beating the unholy shit out of people until he became Batman scowling and beating the unholy shit out of people.
Don't get me wrong....it makes for some really fun action more often than not, but it also cheapens a character capable of so much more which is evident, by the way, in Long Halloween and Year One. Honestly, this is why I'm actually very excited about Superman's upcoming team-up with the Caped Crusader in Man of Steel 2: Superhero Boogaloo. This is a chance for one of Batman's peers (who is pretty much the epitome of superhero morality) to show him something about moral discernment, something we didn't see much of in the Dark Knight movies because Batman had to be portrayed as knowing better than everyone else even though he really didn't (seriously....WHY THE FUCK DID HE TAKE THE BLAME FOR COLD BLOODED MURDER????....They could have easily blamed all that shit on the Joker....I mean, they're lying either way, so.....).
Oh, and by the way.....I'm completely fine with Ben Affleck Batman. Fight among yourselves, internet.
In his fight to defeat the Court of Owls conspiracy threatening to envelop Gotham from the inside, Batman had to exploit the weakness of their nigh-indestructable "talon" assassin agents (imagine ninjas who dress like owls) which has to do with extreme cold. Obviously, this led to the Bat-family having a brief run in with Mr. Freeze. While his driving motivation is still his beloved icicle of a wife, Nora, this retconned version of Victor Fries has actually never met Nora and is just a lonely man who became obsessed with her during his early days of researching cryogenics. Batman recounts this story to exploit as a weakness and, of course, beat Freeze. It was a decent, well-written story, but it also sheds light on my biggest problem with contemporary Batman.
The thing about Batman villains is a lot of the really good ones tend to have a sort of driving force that gives the reader a way to connect and, sometimes, sympathize with them. Granted, this isn't exclusively Batman territory, but Mister Freeze was definitely a character who, over the years, has been particularly popular because of his understandable motivations. Despite being released as a straight to video animated feature (probably because the "Batman and Robin" movie still had a stink on it so strong, it may have been mistaken for actual chemical warfare), SubZero was a very well received movie essentially about Supervillain John Q, a guy trying to save someone he loved and was willing to be an asshole to do it.
This was interesting, but not only because it adds depth to the bad guy. Ideally, it adds some layers to the good guy. Batman actually had to understand someone's motives outside of "because I'm an asshole, that's why." More often than not, during the time of "The Animated Series," Batman went out of his way to still try to save his foes when outside variables seemed to fall apart. By the time he met Animated Series Superman, this gave them something to have in common despite varying methods of getting the job done.
The whole point of the World's Greatest Detective is that he's smart and physically capable, but he's still just a man and, in his own way, serves as not only Gotham's protector, but its conscience as well. The Batman Problem comes when you do things like reduce Mister Freeze, a villain with depth, to a delusional dickhead who never had hugs as a kid just so Batman can look tougher and "above it all" when he beats his ass. In fact, if you look closely, he spends a lot more time outsmarting and looking tough in front of his own Justice League teammates than he does the bad guys You can even see it in the Dark Knight trilogy (although I loved those movies) where Batman's code about not killing holds up....until he kills someone (Ra's Al Ghul, Two Face, Talia). Even though it's awesome at times, the Problem is that Batman has gone from a badass Sherlock Holmes analog with a roguish attitude to the New Chuck Norris.

I would also like to point out that the same nerds who think Batman is awesome because he's seemingly all powerful, unbeatable and omniscient are the same nerds who chastise Superman for being seemingly all powerful, unbeatable and omniscient (in other words, Superman haters, your argument is invalid).
I could throw a digital rock out into the internet and hit millions of memes that all pretty much reduce Batman to Punch'emInTheFuckingFace Man. I was watching a commercial promoting the Arkham Origins video game and it was comprised primarily of Bruce Wayne growing up 1). scowling and 2). beating the unholy shit out of people until he became Batman scowling and beating the unholy shit out of people.
Don't get me wrong....it makes for some really fun action more often than not, but it also cheapens a character capable of so much more which is evident, by the way, in Long Halloween and Year One. Honestly, this is why I'm actually very excited about Superman's upcoming team-up with the Caped Crusader in Man of Steel 2: Superhero Boogaloo. This is a chance for one of Batman's peers (who is pretty much the epitome of superhero morality) to show him something about moral discernment, something we didn't see much of in the Dark Knight movies because Batman had to be portrayed as knowing better than everyone else even though he really didn't (seriously....WHY THE FUCK DID HE TAKE THE BLAME FOR COLD BLOODED MURDER????....They could have easily blamed all that shit on the Joker....I mean, they're lying either way, so.....).
Oh, and by the way.....I'm completely fine with Ben Affleck Batman. Fight among yourselves, internet.
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Wednesday, August 7, 2013
The Best Thing On The Internet This Week....
So, the internet rumor mill has been working double time (almost as hard as I worked trying to figure out why anyone watches Storage Wars), trying to guess who's in line to inherit the role of Batman for his team up with Superman in Man of Steel 2: Steel Harder. So far, all we know for certain is that it's not the Royal Baby and it's not Christian Bale since he's all but made a blood vow that he's done with Batman. Rumor has it that one of the names on the short list over at Warner Bros. to don the cape and cowl is none other than.....
That's right!!! Ryan Gosling, the guy from The Notebook, Blue Valentine and Crazy Stupid Love is a rumored frontrunner to play the Caped Crusader. As wrong as this is, I'd sell my body to science to see this happen. The most sensitive Batman EVER. Twitter went into a frenzy. Well, really just me and a couple other people, but...you know...same thing. It's a cheap shot on my part, but I can't think of a moment in which that's ever stopped me before.
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@comicsopolis "Hey, Girl...these aren't the cuddles you deserve, but they're the cuddles you need right now." #RyanGoslingBatman
— Oz (@letsgetfree13) August 4, 2013
@comicsopolis @MikeFromNowhere "Hey, Girl...tell me where Lex hid the Kryptonite. Then you have my permission to love." #RyanGoslingBatman
— Oz (@letsgetfree13) August 4, 2013
"Hey, Girl....the cops can handle this one. The Gilmore Girls marathon is on in 15 minutes." #RyanGoslingBatman
— Oz (@letsgetfree13) August 4, 2013
Finally, the Bruce Wayne in a beanie, flared jeans and ironic t-shirt we've all waited for.... #RyanGoslingBatman
— Oz (@letsgetfree13) August 4, 2013
He researches his knock-out gas to make sure it isn't animal tested while listening to Clay Aiken..... #RyanGoslingBatman @MikeFromNowhere
— Oz (@letsgetfree13) August 4, 2013
@letsgetfree13 @comicsopolis Oh my. I've just had a thought. https://t.co/VfHBueSynF
— Mike From Nowhere (@MikeFromNowhere) August 4, 2013
Oh man. What if the Driver from "Drive" was Gosling-Batman's version of MATCHES MALONE
— Mike From Nowhere (@MikeFromNowhere) August 4, 2013
@KingOfMars Remember, this is Movie Batman, who has a code against killing right up until he doesn't.
— Mike From Nowhere (@MikeFromNowhere) August 4, 2013
@KingOfMars *pushes Harvey Dent to his death* ♪♫ Real human being ♪♫ And a real hero ♪♫
— Mike From Nowhere (@MikeFromNowhere) August 4, 2013
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